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TheRuler Moderator
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| Subject: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:55 pm | |
| Monsters: ( 25 ) Judgment Dragon x2 Montage Dragon Dark Armed Dragon Chaos Sorcerer Destiny Hero - Malicious x2 Celestia Garoth Herald of Creation x2 Dark Grepher Armageddon Knight x2 Prometheus Necroface Phantom of Chaos Aurkus Lumina Necro Gardna Krebons Ryko x2 D.D. Crow x2 Spells: ( 8 ) Destiny Draw Emergency Teleport Foolish Burial Monster Reincarnation Gold Sarcophagus x2 Reasoning Soul Release Traps: ( 7 ) Beckoning Light x2 Lightsworn Barrier Mirror Force Torrential Tribute Solemn Judgment Bottomless trap hole Side Deck: ( 6 ) Soul Release Krebons Dark Grepher D.D Crow Lightsworn Barrier Monster Reincarnation Extra Deck: ( 15 ) Ally of Justice Light Gazer Black Rose Dragon Ally of Justice Catastor Goyo Guardian Iron Chain Dragon x2 Power Tool Dragon Red Dragon Archfien x2 Stardust Dragon x2 Urbellum Zeman Brionac Ancient Fairy Dragon I think I have too many monsters, let's see what you think | |
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Dreamfall Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:05 pm | |
| -1 montage why? -1 LS druid useless if soo few LS -1 Ddraw only 2 Dheros -1 Beckoning Light it can be kinda dead draw sometimes -1 LS barrier if you play soo few LS -1(2) Gold Sarco
Add LS Sorc and LS Pally for more mill your own deck and one more bottomless and my body as a shield....and some cards like Smashing Ground or/and Vortex | |
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TheRuler Moderator
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:12 pm | |
| - Dreamfall wrote:
- -1 montage why?
-1 LS druid useless if soo few LS -1 Ddraw only 2 Dheros -1 Beckoning Light it can be kinda dead draw sometimes -1 LS barrier if you play soo few LS -1(2) Gold Sarco
Add LS Sorc and LS Pally for more mill your own deck and one more bottomless and my body as a shield....and some cards like Smashing Ground or/and Vortex Well, montage is for sending monster to grave for DAD. DDraw, I can only have one, to send Dhero to grave to have more monsters to summon DAD BEckoning light is to get JD back from grave if it ever goes there | |
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Harper7000 Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:48 pm | |
| - TheRuler wrote:
- Dreamfall wrote:
- -1 montage why?
-1 LS druid useless if soo few LS -1 Ddraw only 2 Dheros -1 Beckoning Light it can be kinda dead draw sometimes -1 LS barrier if you play soo few LS -1(2) Gold Sarco
Add LS Sorc and LS Pally for more mill your own deck and one more bottomless and my body as a shield....and some cards like Smashing Ground or/and Vortex Well, montage is for sending monster to grave for DAD. DDraw, I can only have one, to send Dhero to grave to have more monsters to summon DAD BEckoning light is to get JD back from grave if it ever goes there every single card in the game has its uses, but he's correct, some of these are random/could be replaced with something better. I agree with all of his suggestions. Beckoning light's EFFECT you could use, but use monster reincarnation instead. there's less of a cost, and it works on darks too. Replace that d-draw with allure. Soul release? Seriously, why? -1, + 1 threatening roar. I think you're a bit TOO paranoid about losing JD. You don't really mill that much with less than half lightsworn, so -1/2 herald of creation and + 1 lyla. Also -1 garoth and + 1 Jain. He's more of a beatstick and garoth's effect doesn't help you that much with only a few lightsworn. Also, you need to make a decision: do you want to gear it towards synchros, or purely OTK with your dark and lights? Bc honestly... Malicious just isn't that good if you don't synch with it. If you want to synchro effectively, then I can help you figure out which monsters to drop for more tuners (I.e. Plaguespreader and gale). You should also probably narrow it down to 40 cards and make the monsters m/t ratio a bit more even | |
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TheRuler Moderator
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:15 pm | |
| Yea well, it has 40 cards lol. But I'm sticking with DDraw, because if I use it to send Malicious to grave, and the Use his eff, I'll get another to the field, then I can use ETeleport to summon Krebons, and synchro them to Ally of Justice Gazor, then that can tributed to level 5/6 monster, and then I already have 3 dark monsters in my grave, so I could summon DAD ! | |
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Harper7000 Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My Twilight Attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:44 pm | |
| Lol yeah, I realized that after I said it . But anyway, In answer to your scenario: ".... And then your opponent activates BTH." No strategy is infaliible, so it's best to be extremely flexible with your deck so you can work with WHATEVER you have in your hand. I've found It's not that good of an idea to have cards that only work for one other card in your deck, bc they end up being dead draws. like what if, instead, you drew krebons, emergency teleport, d-draw, dad, celestia, and beckoning light? If you had more krebins and d-heroes, you could do something. But it IS your deck, so do whatever. Btw, do you want to synchro much or not? Bc you'll need more tuners and less other monsters. I can help you, just let me know. | |
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MeaninglessDemise Archfiend Red
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:50 pm | |
| thats alot of talk of luck my friend | |
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JaliceDakari Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:17 pm | |
| The attempt was thought out...but there is alot of flaws in the deck as well. So lets start from the top.
Monsters: ( 25 )
Judgment Dragon x2 Montage Dragon - Not needed in any way Dark Armed Dragon Chaos Sorcerer Destiny Hero - Malicious x2 - also not needed, since its a dead draw and twilight isnt a synchro deck. Celestia- use 2 Garoth Herald of Creation x2 - Not needed...replace with one plaguespreader zombie.. Dark Grepher- also not needed..you MILL..so you don't need to dump MORE cards.. Armageddon Knight x2 - Again..not needed..twilight isn't a deck based around DAD, but a deck that makes him playable; not the trumph card. Prometheus- why...? remove it Necroface -...remove Phantom of Chaos-....also remove Aurkus Lumina Necro Gardna Krebons - use 2 if your going to use him..since you run E-tele after all. Ryko x2 - Run 3 D.D. Crow x2- Side them, not needed in the main if you don't need them.
Spells: ( 8 ) Destiny Draw -..Remove Emergency Teleport Foolish Burial -again..you mill...so you don't need to add on to it Monster Reincarnation - One is fine, maybe use two if you feel its needed. Gold Sarcophagus x2 - Not needed Reasoning- Remove remove remove Soul Release- See above...
Traps: ( 7 ) Beckoning Light x2 Lightsworn Barrier Mirror Force Torrential Tribute Solemn Judgment Bottomless trap hole- add another
Side Deck: ( 6 ) Soul Release Krebons Dark Grepher D.D Crow Lightsworn Barrier Monster Reincarnation
Extra Deck: ( 15 ) Ally of Justice Light Gazer- optional... Black Rose Dragon Ally of Justice Catastor Goyo Guardian Iron Chain Dragon x2 - You don't run debris, so you don't need this card..replace it Power Tool Dragon- replace it..useless outside morphtronics or a equip deck. Red Dragon Archfien x2- just use one Stardust Dragon x2 Urbellum Zeman - you can't get it out so why are you using it? Zeman is level 7...so krebons (lvl 2) + 5 level's in beast..which you don't have. so remove... Brionac Ancient Fairy Dragon- optional
Now to compile the list and make some suggestions.
-1 montage -2 D-hero Mali -2 herald of creation -1 Grepher -2 Arma knight -1 Necroface -1 Phantom of chaos -1 Prometheus -2 D.D Crow *side them
-1 D-Draw -1 Foolish -1 Reasoning -1 Soul Release -2 Gold Sarc
Now suggestions. Add more lightsworns...
+2 LS- Jain +1 Ryko (So you have 3) +1 Celestia +1 Wulf +2 Lyla +1 Eshren +1 Krebons (So you have 2) +1 Sangan +1 Plaguespreader Zombie +2 Honest
+3 Solar Recharge +1 Charge of the Light Brigade +1 Cold Wave +1 Reinforcements of the Army +0/1 Monster Reincarnation ( 2 Beckoning light should be enough to get back a JD or honest. If you feel you want a 2nd MR...you can use it..it's up to you)
+1 Bottomless Trap Hole -0/1 LightSworn Barrier ( Ok tech, but isn't needed really outside of pure LS decks..so using it is up to you)
Your extra deck I would like to think you can figure out; just replace the cards I noticed with something else. | |
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Dreamfall Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:05 pm | |
| - JaliceDakari wrote:
- The attempt was thought out...but there is alot of flaws in the deck as well. So lets start from the top.
Monsters: ( 25 )
Judgment Dragon x2 Montage Dragon - Not needed in any way Dark Armed Dragon Chaos Sorcerer Destiny Hero - Malicious x2 - also not needed, since its a dead draw and twilight isnt a synchro deck. Celestia- use 2 Garoth Herald of Creation x2 - Not needed...replace with one plaguespreader zombie.. Dark Grepher- also not needed..you MILL..so you don't need to dump MORE cards.. Armageddon Knight x2 - Again..not needed..twilight isn't a deck based around DAD, but a deck that makes him playable; not the trumph card. Prometheus- why...? remove it Necroface -...remove Phantom of Chaos-....also remove Aurkus Lumina Necro Gardna Krebons - use 2 if your going to use him..since you run E-tele after all. Ryko x2 - Run 3 D.D. Crow x2- Side them, not needed in the main if you don't need them.
Spells: ( 8 ) Destiny Draw -..Remove Emergency Teleport Foolish Burial -again..you mill...so you don't need to add on to it Monster Reincarnation - One is fine, maybe use two if you feel its needed. Gold Sarcophagus x2 - Not needed Reasoning- Remove remove remove Soul Release- See above...
Traps: ( 7 ) Beckoning Light x2 Lightsworn Barrier Mirror Force Torrential Tribute Solemn Judgment Bottomless trap hole- add another
Side Deck: ( 6 ) Soul Release Krebons Dark Grepher D.D Crow Lightsworn Barrier Monster Reincarnation
Extra Deck: ( 15 ) Ally of Justice Light Gazer- optional... Black Rose Dragon Ally of Justice Catastor Goyo Guardian Iron Chain Dragon x2 - You don't run debris, so you don't need this card..replace it Power Tool Dragon- replace it..useless outside morphtronics or a equip deck. Red Dragon Archfien x2- just use one Stardust Dragon x2 Urbellum Zeman - you can't get it out so why are you using it? Zeman is level 7...so krebons (lvl 2) + 5 level's in beast..which you don't have. so remove... Brionac Ancient Fairy Dragon- optional
Now to compile the list and make some suggestions.
-1 montage -2 D-hero Mali -2 herald of creation -1 Grepher -2 Arma knight -1 Necroface -1 Phantom of chaos -1 Prometheus -2 D.D Crow *side them
-1 D-Draw -1 Foolish -1 Reasoning -1 Soul Release -2 Gold Sarc
Now suggestions. Add more lightsworns...
+2 LS- Jain +1 Ryko (So you have 3) +1 Celestia +1 Wulf +2 Lyla +1 Eshren +1 Krebons (So you have 2) +1 Sangan +1 Plaguespreader Zombie +2 Honest
+3 Solar Recharge +1 Charge of the Light Brigade +1 Cold Wave +1 Reinforcements of the Army +0/1 Monster Reincarnation ( 2 Beckoning light should be enough to get back a JD or honest. If you feel you want a 2nd MR...you can use it..it's up to you)
+1 Bottomless Trap Hole -0/1 LightSworn Barrier ( Ok tech, but isn't needed really outside of pure LS decks..so using it is up to you)
Your extra deck I would like to think you can figure out; just replace the cards I noticed with something else. You removed too much... some cards were ok(like dark mosters for controling grave)...i playd Twinlight but i quited them cuz LightLords/Sworns are my lifetime love .... im suchha fanboy of LSs .. i plaay pure LSs | |
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JaliceDakari Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:37 pm | |
| I removed alot, because you didn't need alot. Mali is somewhat useable still..but a D-draw for 2 targets is pretty situational at best. Also..the way you were trying to make your deck...it seemed more along the lines of something you would see in Tele-DAD.
currently if you wanted to run twilight..then you would use alot more Ls than you were using for it to even be competitive. Besides..I use the same kind of deck with DAD in it and i use about..5 darks? so it isn't hard to get out DAD with how the deck speed is and frankly you don't "need" graveyard control,lol..Run it however you want though. | |
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TheRuler Moderator
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:40 pm | |
| To harper: I'm not so much into synchroing with this deck It's not for it cos it has JD and DAD But yeah, I'll try the deck with all your suggestions later, when I have time | |
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Harper7000 Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My Twilight Attemption Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:57 pm | |
| Cool, cool, then I'd go with jalice's suggestions, except the 3 solar recharges. I don't think you'll need 3 in a twilight deck | |
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JaliceDakari Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:48 am | |
| 3 is generally the normal amount to run, but some people run 2. It's really your primary draw card and you do want cards in your grave anyways.
To each his own though. | |
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Dreamfall Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:44 pm | |
| - JaliceDakari wrote:
- 3 is generally the normal amount to run, but some people run 2. It's really your primary draw card and you do want cards in your grave anyways.
To each his own though. Well if you play Darker Twilight then 2 are ok but if Lighter and being able to play 4 would be cool xD | |
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Harper7000 Stardust Cyan
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| Subject: Re:My Twilight attemption Sat May 01, 2010 1:03 am | |
| Yeah, that's why i said that, bc with a lot of darks it could become a dead draw. It all depends on how you run it. | |
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j0hnb0i Archfiend Red
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Sat May 01, 2010 6:22 am | |
| twilight tournament? haha | |
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TheRuler Moderator
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| Subject: Re: My twilight attemption Sat May 01, 2010 5:27 pm | |
| - j0hnb0i wrote:
- twilight tournament? haha
That would be so cool | |
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