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PostSubject: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:55 pm

Monsters: ( 25 )

Judgment Dragon x2
Montage Dragon
Dark Armed Dragon
Chaos Sorcerer
Destiny Hero - Malicious x2
Celestia
Garoth
Herald of Creation x2
Dark Grepher
Armageddon Knight x2
Prometheus
Necroface
Phantom of Chaos
Aurkus
Lumina
Necro Gardna
Krebons
Ryko x2
D.D. Crow x2

Spells: ( 8 )
Destiny Draw
Emergency Teleport
Foolish Burial
Monster Reincarnation
Gold Sarcophagus x2
Reasoning
Soul Release

Traps: ( 7 )
Beckoning Light x2
Lightsworn Barrier
Mirror Force
Torrential Tribute
Solemn Judgment
Bottomless trap hole

Side Deck: ( 6 )
Soul Release
Krebons
Dark Grepher
D.D Crow
Lightsworn Barrier
Monster Reincarnation

Extra Deck: ( 15 )
Ally of Justice Light Gazer
Black Rose Dragon
Ally of Justice Catastor
Goyo Guardian
Iron Chain Dragon x2
Power Tool Dragon
Red Dragon Archfien x2
Stardust Dragon x2
Urbellum
Zeman
Brionac
Ancient Fairy Dragon

I think I have too many monsters, let's see what you think Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:05 pm

-1 montage why?
-1 LS druid useless if soo few LS
-1 Ddraw only 2 Dheros
-1 Beckoning Light it can be kinda dead draw sometimes
-1 LS barrier if you play soo few LS
-1(2) Gold Sarco


Add LS Sorc and LS Pally for more mill your own deck and one more bottomless and my body as a shield....and some cards like Smashing Ground or/and Vortex
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:12 pm

Dreamfall wrote:
-1 montage why?
-1 LS druid useless if soo few LS
-1 Ddraw only 2 Dheros
-1 Beckoning Light it can be kinda dead draw sometimes
-1 LS barrier if you play soo few LS
-1(2) Gold Sarco


Add LS Sorc and LS Pally for more mill your own deck and one more bottomless and my body as a shield....and some cards like Smashing Ground or/and Vortex
Well, montage is for sending monster to grave for DAD. DDraw, I can only have one, to send Dhero to grave to have more monsters to summon DAD Very Happy BEckoning light is to get JD back from grave if it ever goes there Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:48 pm

TheRuler wrote:
Dreamfall wrote:
-1 montage why?
-1 LS druid useless if soo few LS
-1 Ddraw only 2 Dheros
-1 Beckoning Light it can be kinda dead draw sometimes
-1 LS barrier if you play soo few LS
-1(2) Gold Sarco


Add LS Sorc and LS Pally for more mill your own deck and one more bottomless and my body as a shield....and some cards like Smashing Ground or/and Vortex
Well, montage is for sending monster to grave for DAD. DDraw, I can only have one, to send Dhero to grave to have more monsters to summon DAD Very Happy BEckoning light is to get JD back from grave if it ever goes there Very Happy
every single card in the game has its uses, but he's correct, some of these are random/could be replaced with something better. I agree with all of his suggestions. Beckoning light's EFFECT you could use, but use monster reincarnation instead. there's less of a cost, and it works on darks too. Replace that d-draw with allure. Soul release? Seriously, why? -1, + 1 threatening roar. I think you're a bit TOO paranoid about losing JD. You don't really mill that much with less than half lightsworn, so -1/2 herald of creation and + 1 lyla. Also -1 garoth and + 1 Jain. He's more of a beatstick and garoth's effect doesn't help you that much with only a few lightsworn.
Also, you need to make a decision: do you want to gear it towards synchros, or purely OTK with your dark and lights? Bc honestly... Malicious just isn't that good if you don't synch with it. If you want to synchro effectively, then I can help you figure out which monsters to drop for more tuners (I.e. Plaguespreader and gale). You should also probably narrow it down to 40 cards and make the monsters m/t ratio a bit more even
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:15 pm

Yea well, it has 40 cards lol. But I'm sticking with DDraw, because if I use it to send Malicious to grave, and the Use his eff, I'll get another to the field, then I can use ETeleport to summon Krebons, and synchro them to Ally of Justice Gazor, then that can tributed to level 5/6 monster, and then I already have 3 dark monsters in my grave, so I could summon DAD ! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My Twilight Attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:44 pm

Lol yeah, I realized that after I said it Smile. But anyway, In answer to your scenario: ".... And then your opponent activates BTH." No strategy is infaliible, so it's best to be extremely flexible with your deck so you can work with WHATEVER you have in your hand. I've found It's not that good of an idea to have cards that only work for one other card in your deck, bc they end up being dead draws. like what if, instead, you drew krebons, emergency teleport, d-draw, dad, celestia, and beckoning light? If you had more krebins and d-heroes, you could do something. But it IS your deck, so do whatever. Btw, do you want to synchro much or not? Bc you'll need more tuners and less other monsters. I can help you, just let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:50 pm

thats alot of talk of luck my friend
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:17 pm

The attempt was thought out...but there is alot of flaws in the deck as well. So lets start from the top.


Monsters: ( 25 )

Judgment Dragon x2
Montage Dragon - Not needed in any way
Dark Armed Dragon
Chaos Sorcerer
Destiny Hero - Malicious x2 - also not needed, since its a dead draw and twilight isnt a synchro deck.
Celestia- use 2
Garoth
Herald of Creation x2 - Not needed...replace with one plaguespreader zombie..
Dark Grepher- also not needed..you MILL..so you don't need to dump MORE cards..
Armageddon Knight x2 - Again..not needed..twilight isn't a deck based around DAD, but a deck that makes him playable; not the trumph card.
Prometheus- why...? remove it
Necroface -...remove
Phantom of Chaos-....also remove
Aurkus
Lumina
Necro Gardna
Krebons - use 2 if your going to use him..since you run E-tele after all.
Ryko x2 - Run 3
D.D. Crow x2- Side them, not needed in the main if you don't need them.

Spells: ( 8 )
Destiny Draw -..Remove
Emergency Teleport
Foolish Burial -again..you mill...so you don't need to add on to it
Monster Reincarnation - One is fine, maybe use two if you feel its needed.
Gold Sarcophagus x2 - Not needed
Reasoning- Remove remove remove
Soul Release- See above...

Traps: ( 7 )
Beckoning Light x2
Lightsworn Barrier
Mirror Force
Torrential Tribute
Solemn Judgment
Bottomless trap hole- add another

Side Deck: ( 6 )
Soul Release
Krebons
Dark Grepher
D.D Crow
Lightsworn Barrier
Monster Reincarnation

Extra Deck: ( 15 )
Ally of Justice Light Gazer- optional...
Black Rose Dragon
Ally of Justice Catastor
Goyo Guardian
Iron Chain Dragon x2 - You don't run debris, so you don't need this card..replace it
Power Tool Dragon- replace it..useless outside morphtronics or a equip deck.
Red Dragon Archfien x2- just use one
Stardust Dragon x2
Urbellum
Zeman - you can't get it out so why are you using it? Zeman is level 7...so krebons (lvl 2) + 5 level's in beast..which you don't have. so remove...
Brionac
Ancient Fairy Dragon- optional



Now to compile the list and make some suggestions.


-1 montage
-2 D-hero Mali
-2 herald of creation
-1 Grepher
-2 Arma knight
-1 Necroface
-1 Phantom of chaos
-1 Prometheus
-2 D.D Crow *side them

-1 D-Draw
-1 Foolish
-1 Reasoning
-1 Soul Release
-2 Gold Sarc


Now suggestions. Add more lightsworns...

+2 LS- Jain
+1 Ryko (So you have 3)
+1 Celestia
+1 Wulf
+2 Lyla
+1 Eshren
+1 Krebons (So you have 2)
+1 Sangan
+1 Plaguespreader Zombie
+2 Honest

+3 Solar Recharge
+1 Charge of the Light Brigade
+1 Cold Wave
+1 Reinforcements of the Army
+0/1 Monster Reincarnation ( 2 Beckoning light should be enough to get back a JD or honest. If you feel you want a 2nd MR...you can use it..it's up to you)

+1 Bottomless Trap Hole
-0/1 LightSworn Barrier ( Ok tech, but isn't needed really outside of pure LS decks..so using it is up to you)

Your extra deck I would like to think you can figure out; just replace the cards I noticed with something else.
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:05 pm

JaliceDakari wrote:
The attempt was thought out...but there is alot of flaws in the deck as well. So lets start from the top.


Monsters: ( 25 )

Judgment Dragon x2
Montage Dragon - Not needed in any way
Dark Armed Dragon
Chaos Sorcerer
Destiny Hero - Malicious x2 - also not needed, since its a dead draw and twilight isnt a synchro deck.
Celestia- use 2
Garoth
Herald of Creation x2 - Not needed...replace with one plaguespreader zombie..
Dark Grepher- also not needed..you MILL..so you don't need to dump MORE cards..
Armageddon Knight x2 - Again..not needed..twilight isn't a deck based around DAD, but a deck that makes him playable; not the trumph card.
Prometheus- why...? remove it
Necroface -...remove
Phantom of Chaos-....also remove
Aurkus
Lumina
Necro Gardna
Krebons - use 2 if your going to use him..since you run E-tele after all.
Ryko x2 - Run 3
D.D. Crow x2- Side them, not needed in the main if you don't need them.

Spells: ( 8 )
Destiny Draw -..Remove
Emergency Teleport
Foolish Burial -again..you mill...so you don't need to add on to it
Monster Reincarnation - One is fine, maybe use two if you feel its needed.
Gold Sarcophagus x2 - Not needed
Reasoning- Remove remove remove
Soul Release- See above...

Traps: ( 7 )
Beckoning Light x2
Lightsworn Barrier
Mirror Force
Torrential Tribute
Solemn Judgment
Bottomless trap hole- add another

Side Deck: ( 6 )
Soul Release
Krebons
Dark Grepher
D.D Crow
Lightsworn Barrier
Monster Reincarnation

Extra Deck: ( 15 )
Ally of Justice Light Gazer- optional...
Black Rose Dragon
Ally of Justice Catastor
Goyo Guardian
Iron Chain Dragon x2 - You don't run debris, so you don't need this card..replace it
Power Tool Dragon- replace it..useless outside morphtronics or a equip deck.
Red Dragon Archfien x2- just use one
Stardust Dragon x2
Urbellum
Zeman - you can't get it out so why are you using it? Zeman is level 7...so krebons (lvl 2) + 5 level's in beast..which you don't have. so remove...
Brionac
Ancient Fairy Dragon- optional



Now to compile the list and make some suggestions.


-1 montage
-2 D-hero Mali
-2 herald of creation
-1 Grepher
-2 Arma knight
-1 Necroface
-1 Phantom of chaos
-1 Prometheus
-2 D.D Crow *side them

-1 D-Draw
-1 Foolish
-1 Reasoning
-1 Soul Release
-2 Gold Sarc


Now suggestions. Add more lightsworns...

+2 LS- Jain
+1 Ryko (So you have 3)
+1 Celestia
+1 Wulf
+2 Lyla
+1 Eshren
+1 Krebons (So you have 2)
+1 Sangan
+1 Plaguespreader Zombie
+2 Honest

+3 Solar Recharge
+1 Charge of the Light Brigade
+1 Cold Wave
+1 Reinforcements of the Army
+0/1 Monster Reincarnation ( 2 Beckoning light should be enough to get back a JD or honest. If you feel you want a 2nd MR...you can use it..it's up to you)

+1 Bottomless Trap Hole
-0/1 LightSworn Barrier ( Ok tech, but isn't needed really outside of pure LS decks..so using it is up to you)

Your extra deck I would like to think you can figure out; just replace the cards I noticed with something else.

You removed too much... some cards were ok(like dark mosters for controling grave)...i playd Twinlight but i quited them cuz LightLords/Sworns are my lifetime love .... im suchha fanboy of LSs .. i plaay pure LSs
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:37 pm

I removed alot, because you didn't need alot. Mali is somewhat useable still..but a D-draw for 2 targets is pretty situational at best. Also..the way you were trying to make your deck...it seemed more along the lines of something you would see in Tele-DAD.

currently if you wanted to run twilight..then you would use alot more Ls than you were using for it to even be competitive. Besides..I use the same kind of deck with DAD in it and i use about..5 darks? so it isn't hard to get out DAD with how the deck speed is and frankly you don't "need" graveyard control,lol..Run it however you want though.
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:40 pm

To harper: I'm not so much into synchroing with this deck Very Happy It's not for it cos it has JD and DAD Very Happy But yeah, I'll try the deck with all your suggestions later, when I have time Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: My Twilight Attemption   Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:57 pm

Cool, cool, then I'd go with jalice's suggestions, except the 3 solar recharges. I don't think you'll need 3 in a twilight deck
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:48 am

3 is generally the normal amount to run, but some people run 2. It's really your primary draw card and you do want cards in your grave anyways.

To each his own though.
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:44 pm

JaliceDakari wrote:
3 is generally the normal amount to run, but some people run 2. It's really your primary draw card and you do want cards in your grave anyways.

To each his own though.

Well if you play Darker Twilight then 2 are ok but if Lighter and being able to play 4 would be cool xD
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PostSubject: Re:My Twilight attemption   Sat May 01, 2010 1:03 am

Yeah, that's why i said that, bc with a lot of darks it could become a dead draw. It all depends on how you run it.
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Sat May 01, 2010 6:22 am

twilight tournament? haha
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PostSubject: Re: My twilight attemption   Sat May 01, 2010 5:27 pm

j0hnb0i wrote:
twilight tournament? haha
That would be so cool Very Happy

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